~ the current patchwork of health care delivery in the usa; denigrates the poor, the weak & the confused.....

posted by germanicus on August 18, 2024 - 10:29am

Comprehensive universal health care........
~ the current patchwork of health care delivery systems in the usa; denigrates the poor, the weak & the confused.....

1) roll Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, long-term nursing, veterans' & private health~dental~mental care into "one payer system".

~ Single-payer national health care (not-insurance) is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing, but delivery of care remains private.
2) all providers would remain private.
3) all providers (private) administrative / processing claims costs could share in "universal"..national economies of scale.
~ approximately 30% of health care industry employees are exec/mgr/sales/adminstrative personnel....
2) cover everyone ~ from womb to tomb & everyone in-between...preferably USA citizens only, tho.
3) i'm thinking if people didn't have to file bankruptcy due to catastrophic health problems is a good thing. (reducing family stress & tort $)
~ Our nation cannot have individuals capable of contributing be forced into bankruptcy, and thereby devastating their families both immediate and generations to follow from such health events. (ref: understand2008).
4) i'm thinking people wouldn't be so quick to sue doctors;
~ if we knew we wouldn't go bankrupt trying to deal with errors/results of poor judgements (assuming the doctor is competent). (reduction in tort $)
5) reduce the non-medical educational requirements of training MDs, DOs, PAs & nurses. (reduction in training $)
6) Elective care and cosmetic surgery type care would be covered by private insurance.

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Hey g-cus, excellent post! I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else in the Shoutbox, but I just thought I'd let you and everyone in U08 know about Senator Wyden of Oregon's Healthy Americans Act. I've been going over it with a fine tooth comb, and though it isn't absolutely perfect legislation, it does come close. It is a reasonable "middle of the road" concept that should satisfy the requirements you and others have made to truly reform how HC is delivered. It meets a good balance between the "Single Payer" and the "Market Forces" proponents. If it is not passed before the 11-08 elections, which doesn't seem likely, I sincerely feel it should be part of the Unity08 platform and have the full support of our Presidential candidates! Keep up the good work!

What would these costs be? Doctors must first get their Bachelors degree before they embark on their medical training. I personally do not want a Doctor that is merely trained, as opposed to a Doctor that is both trained and educated.

i ain't met too many md/do that remember their 1st two years of college..

~ the current patchwork of health care delivery systems in the usa; denigrates the poor, the weak & the confused.....

1) roll Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, long-term nursing, veterans' & private health~dental~mental care into "one payer system".
~ Single-payer national health care (not-insurance) is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing, but delivery of care remains private.
2) all providers would remain private.
3) all providers (private) administrative / processing claims costs could share in "universal"..national economies of scale.

But the governement should use the leverage they have by virtue of the volume of entitlment contributions for veterans, federal employees, elderly, etc to negociate the standard of cost for drugs, testing, and equipment for everyone.

The domestic based military operation personnel should be under the same system.

Bill"for what we are together"
bill713.unity08@sbcglobal.net

Comprehensive universal health care........
~ the current patchwork of health care delivery systems in the usa; denigrates the poor, the weak & the confused.....

1) roll Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, long-term nursing, veterans' & private health~dental~mental care into "one payer system".
~ Single-payer national health care (not-insurance) is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health financing, but delivery of care remains private.
2) all providers would remain private.
3) all providers (private) administrative / processing claims costs could share in "universal"..national economies of scale.
~ approximately 30% of health care industry employees are exec/mgr/sales/adminstrative personnel....
2) cover everyone ~ from womb to tomb & everyone in-between...preferably USA citizens only, tho.
3) i'm thinking if people didn't have to file bankruptcy due to catastrophic health problems is a good thing. (reducing family stress & tort $)
~ Our nation cannot have individuals capable of contributing be forced into bankruptcy, and thereby devastating their families both immediate and generations to follow from such health events. (ref: understand2008).
4) i'm thinking people wouldn't be so quick to sue doctors;
~ if we knew we wouldn't go bankrupt trying to deal with errors/results of poor judgements (assuming the doctor is competent). (reduction in tort $)
5) reduce the non-medical educational requirements of training MDs, DOs, PAs & nurses. (reduction in training $)
6) Elective care and cosmetic surgery type care would be covered by private insurance.

~ the current patchwork of health care delivery systems in the usa; denigrates the poor, the weak & the confused.

To counter fear of abuse for "free" health care, I think there should be a co-pay for services, perhaps on a sliding scale based on your income.

I also want CARE, not INSURANCE. I see evidence that health insurance companies are a big part of the problem.
Their profits are enormous, and their profits are money that could go to care.

US Marine vet Vietnam 4/68 - 8/69 5th District, NJ

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